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him." 1_John 2:29. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, HE IS A NEW CREATURE: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2_Corinthians 5:17. 3. A third method of dealing with this class is by saying, "Yes, faith does indeed save, but it is a certain kind of faith that saves." To show what the faith that saves is, turn to Galatians 5:6: "For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but FAITH WHICH WORKETH BY LOVE." This passage says that it is faith which worketh by love. Romans 10:9-10 that it is a faith of the heart: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe IN THINE HEART that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. FOR WITH THE HEART man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." while James 2:14 tells us that it is faith which shows itself in works: "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith but have not works? can that faith save him?" (RV) 4. 1_John 5:4-5 is also very useful as showing that one who really has faith in Jesus as the Son of God, and is born of God, overcomes the world. The passage reads as follows: "For whatsoever is born of God OVERCOMETH THE WORLD; and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" The fact that one is living in sin and not overcoming the world, but being overcome by it, is conclusive proof that he really has not faith that Jesus is the Son of God, and that he has not been born of God. {103} @09 CHAPTER NINE HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE WHO LACK ASSURANCE It is not enough that a man be saved: to be of the most use to God he must know that he is saved, and no small part of our work as personal workers will be to lead into assurance of salvation, men and

women who do not as yet know that they are saved. There are two classes of those who lack assurance. I. THOSE WHO LACK ASSURANCE BECAUSE OF IGNORANCE. 1. There are many who lack assurance for the simple reason that they do not know that it is any one's privilege to know that they have eternal life. Oftentimes if you ask people if they know that they are saved, or if they know that their sins are forgiven, they reply, "Why no, no one knows that." You can say, "Yes, the Bible says that all who believe may know it." and then show them 1_John 5:13: "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; THAT YE MAY KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." It is well to begin with this passage, and not to leave it until it becomes very clear that it is every believer's privilege to know that he has everlasting life. Follow this up with John 1:12: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." This verse shows that Christ gives to as many as receive Him, power to become the sons of God. A good way to use this verse is to ask the inquirer questions regarding it. "What does every one who receives Him receive power to become?" "A son of God." {104} "Are you sure that every one who receives Jesus obtains power to become a son of God?" "Yes." "What makes you sure." "God says so here." "Have you received Jesus?" "Yes." "What then have you received power to become?" Just hold the inquirer to the point that it is not what he feels he has power to become, but what God here in His Word says he has power to become. It will usually be necessary to go through it again and again and again. John 3:36 can be used in a similar way. "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." Ask the inquirer, "Who does this verse say has everlasting life?" "He that believeth on the Son." "How many that believe on the Son have everlasting life?" "Why, every one." "Are you sure of that?" "Yes." "Why?" "Because God says so here." "What is it God says?" "He that believeth

on the Son hath everlasting life." "Does God merely say that he that believeth on the Son 'shall have' everlasting life?" "No, He says he 'hath' it." "Do you believe on the Son?" "I do." "What then does God say you have?" In a little while he will see it and say, "Everlasting life." Then have him say it over and over again, "I have everlasting life, I have everlasting life." Have him stand by it because God says so, and then have him kneel down and thank God for giving him everlasting life. Do not let the inquirer go while he continues to say, "I hope I have everlasting life." Insist upon his resting absolutely upon what God says. One night I found a young man upon his knees in great distress at the close of an evening service. I showed him from the Bible how Jesus Christ had borne his sins, and asked him if he would accept Christ as his Savior. He said he would, and seemed to do it; but he seemed to get no light, and went out of the meeting in deep distress still. The next night he was there again, professing to accept Christ, but with no assurance that his sins were forgiven. I tried to show him from John 2:36 what God said of those who believed on the Son, but the light did not come. Finally he rose to leave the room. As he turned to leave me he said, "Will you pray for me?" I said, "Yes." He walked a few steps down the aisle and I called after him, "Do you believe I will pray for you?" He turned toward me with a look of astonishment, and said, "Yes, of course." I said, "Why do you think I will pray for you?" "Because you said so." I said, "Is not God's Word as good as mine?" He saw it at once, that while he was willing to believe my word, he was not willing to believe {105} God's Word. He received assurance on the spot and knew that he had everlasting life. Another verse which can be used to advantage with this class is John 5:24: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." This verse has been used of God to bring many into assurance of salvation. 1_John 5:12 is also very

plain: "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." Acts 13:39 has been greatly used of God in dealing with this class. "By him all that believe are justified from all things," etc. Ask the inquirer, "What does this verse say that all who believe are?" "Justified." "Justified from what?" "From all things." "Do you believe?" "I do." What are you then?" It will probably be necessary to go over it several times before the inquirer answers, "I am justified"; but when he does, tell him to thank God for justifying him, and to confess Christ before the world. See to it that he does it. I was dealing one night with a young woman who was in great distress of soul because she could not see that she had forgiveness of sin. I went carefully over the ground to find if she really had accepted Christ, and it appeared clear that she had. Then I had her read Acts 13:39, "By him all that believe are justified from all things." "Now," I said, "Who does God say in this verse are justified from all things?" "All that believe." "Believe on whom?" "Believe on Christ." "Do you believe on Christ?" "I do." "Have you really accepted Him as your Savior and Lord and Master?" "Yes." "Then you are sure you believe on Him?" "Yes." "And what does this verse say that all who believe are?" "Justified." "What then are you?" She would not say, "I am justified," but wept over the thought that her sins were not forgiven. I went over it again and again and again. At last the simple meaning of the words seemed to dawn upon her darkened mind. I asked her as before, "Who does God say are justified?" "All that believe." "From what are they justified?" "From all things." "Who is justified from all things?" "All that believe." "Who says so?" "God says so." "Do you believe?" "I do." "What are you then?" A joyous light spread over {106} her countenance, and she said, "Why, I am justified from all things," and immediately she turned toward her friend standing near and said to me, "Now won't you speak to my friend about Christ?" 2. Many inquirers of this class stumble over the

fact that they have not the witness of the Holy Spirit. Show them that the witness of the Word to their acceptance is sufficient from 1_John 5:10: "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; BECAUSE HE BELIEVETH NOT THE RECORD THAT GOD GAVE of his Son." This verse tells us that if we believe not the witness of God, in His Word, we make Him a liar. I was once dealing with a very intelligent young man along this line. He professed that he had accepted Jesus Christ, but that he did not know that he had eternal life. I showed him God's testimony that "he that hath the Son hath life." (1_John 5:12.) "Now," I said, "You have the Son." "Yes." "And God says that he that hath the Son hath what?" "Life." Then I read the tenth verse, "He that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of His Son." "Now," I said, "God's record concerning His Son is that eternal life is in Him," (Verse 11), and that "he that hath the Son hath life," (verse 12). Now this is God's record. If you do not believe it, no matter what your feelings are, what are you doing?" In a little while the man replied, "I am making God a liar, but I never saw it before." Then and there he trusted the naked Word of God, and went out with the knowledge that his sins were forgiven, and that God had given him eternal life. Also show those who are waiting for the witness of the Holy Spirit, that it is after we believe the testimony of the Word that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, using Ephesians 1:13 for this purpose: "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise." The natural order in assurance is this: First, assurance of our justification, resting upon the naked Word of God (such passages as Acts 13:39); second, public confession of Christ with the mouth (Romans 10:10); and third, the witness of the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13, Romans 8;16). The trouble with many is that they wish to invert this {107}

order, and have the witness of the Holy Spirit before they confess Christ with the mouth. It is very important in using these texts to make clear what saving faith is, because many say that they believe, when they do not in the sense of these texts, and so get a false assurance, and entertain false hopes, and never get deliverance. There is a good deal of careless dealing with those who lack assurance. Workers are so anxious to have inquirers come out clearly that they urge them on to assurance when they have no right to assurance because they have not really accepted Christ. It is better for a man not to have assurance that he is saved, than for a man to have assurance that he is saved when in reality he is not. John 1:12, 2_Timothy 1:12 and Romans 10:10 make it very clear what the character of saving faith is. II. THOSE WHO LACK ASSURANCE BECAUSE OF SIN. Oftentimes the trouble with those who lack assurance is, that there is some sin or questionable practice in their lives which they ought to confess and give up. When this is the case, it will not do to deal with the inquirer along the lines mentioned above. Take him rather to such passages as John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." When the man has read the passage you can tell him that Jesus' promise was that if we follow Him we shall have the light of life. Say to him, "You have not the light of life, so the probability is that you are not following Him. Are you following Him?" Push the inquirer along this line to find if there is not some point in which he is untrue to Christ, or to the leading of the Holy Spirit. One night in an after-meeting, I was passing around here and there asking different ones about their Christian experience. A gentleman and his wife, friends from another church, had come down to the meeting. I noticed the gentleman looked at his wife as much as to say, "Speak to her." In a little while I came around to her, and asked her how she was getting on in her Christian life. She

replied that she was all in the dark. I simply quoted John 8:12 and passed on, but the arrow went home. She and her husband stayed after {108} every one else had gone, and I had a private conversation with her. I asked her if she was rebelling against the will of God at any place. She confessed that she was, that her husband had received a great anointing of the Holy Spirit and she had not, and what was more, she was afraid her husband would go into Christian work and she did not want him to, and so she had gotten utterly in the dark. After some conversation and prayer, she surrendered wholly to the will of God, and the next morning received a wonderful baptism with the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 55:7 is a good passage to use with those who lack assurance because of sin. Proverbs 28:13 and Psalm 32:1-5 are good passages to use with those who have some unconfessed sin that is keeping them out of the enjoyment of fellowship with God. These passages show that when sin is forsaken and confessed we receive pardon and light and assurance. Oftentimes it is well when one lacks assurance, first, to put the question clearly to him, "Do you know of any sin which you are cherishing, or anything in your life which your conscience troubles you about?" {109} @10 CHAPTER TEN HOW TO DEAL WITH BACKSLIDERS One of the largest classes found in the inquiry room, and in all personal work in our day, are those who are, or call themselves, backsliders. They are not all alike by any means, and they ought not all to have the same treatment. There are two classes of backsliders: I. CARELESS BACKSLIDERS, THOSE WHO HAVE NO GREAT DESIRE TO COME BACK TO THE SAVIOR. 1. There is perhaps no better passage to use with such than Jeremiah 2:5: "Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?" Drive God's question contained in the text right

home to their hearts, "What iniquity have you found in the Lord?" Dwell upon God's wonderful love to them, and show them the base ingratitude and folly of forsaking such a Savior and friend. Very likely they have wandered away because of the unkind treatment of some professed Christian, or of some minister, but hold them right to the point of how the Lord treated them, and how they are now treating Him. Use also Jeremiah 2:13: "For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water." Have the inquirer read the verse, and ask, "Is not that verse true? What does the Lord say that you forsook when you forsook Him?" "The fountain of living waters." "And to what does He say you turned?" "Broken cisterns that can hold no water." "Is not that {110} true in your experience? Did you not forsake the fountain of living waters, and have you not found the world broken cisterns that can hold no water?" I have yet to find the first backslider of whom this is not true and I have used it with many. Then illustrate the text by showing how foolish it would be to turn from a fountain of living water to broken cisterns or muddy pools. If this verse does not accomplish the desired result, use Jeremiah 2:19: "Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts." When they have read it, ask them if they have not found in it an "evil thing and bitter" that they have forsaken the Lord their God. It is well sometimes to go over the misfortunes and troubles that have come since they forsook the Lord, for it is a fact as every experienced worker knows, that when a man who had had a real knowledge of Christ backslides, misfortune after misfortune is likely to overtake him. Proverbs 14:14, the first half of the verse, is also a good passage to use: "The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways."

1_Kings 11:9 can also be used: "And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the Lord God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice." One of the best passages to show the folly and evil results of backsliding is Luke 15:13-17. Go into detail in bringing out the point of the picture here given of the miseries that came to the backslider in the far country. 2. It is well sometimes to use Amos 4:11-12: "I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the Lord. Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel." Before the passage is read you can say, "There is a passage in the Old Testament that contains a message from God to backsliding Israel, and I believe it is a message for you also. Then have him read the passage carefully and after he has read it, ask him what the message of God to backsliding Israel was. "Prepare to meet {111} thy God." Then say to him, "It is God's message to you too, as a backslider tonight, to 'prepare to meet thy God.'" Go over this again and again until the thought rings in the heart of the man. II. BACKSLIDERS WHO ARE SICK OF THEIR WANDERING AND SIN, AND DESIRE TO COME BACK TO THE LORD. These are a very different class from those just mentioned, though of course they are related. They are perhaps as easy a class to deal with as we ever find. There are many who once had a knowledge of the Lord who have wandered into sin, and who are now sick and tired of sin, and are longing to come back, but think that there is no acceptance for them. Point them to Jeremiah 3:12-13,22: "Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the Lord; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever. Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not

obeyed my voice, saith the Lord. "Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold we come unto thee; for thou art the Lord our God." This will show them how ready the Lord is to receive them back, and that all He asks of them is that they acknowledge their sin and return to Him. Hosea 14:1-4 is full of tender invitation to penitent backsliders, and also shows the way back to God. "O Israel, return unto the Lord thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity. Take with you words, and turn to the Lord: say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously: so will we render the calves of our lips. Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses: neither will we say any more to the work of our hands, Ye are our gods: for in thee the fatherless findeth mercy. I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him." I use this passage more frequently than almost any other with the class of whom we are speaking, especially the first and fourth verses. I show them first of all that God is inviting the backslider to Himself, and second that He promises to heal their backsliding and love them freely, and third, that all that He asks is that they take words of confession and return to Him (verse 2). The following verses all set forth God's unfailing love for the backslider, and His willingness to receive him back: {112} "But thou hast not called upon me, O Jacob; but thou hast been weary of me, O Israel. "Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins." Isaiah 43:22,24-25. "He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand? Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art my servant: I have formed thee; thou art my servant:

O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me. I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: RETURN UNTO ME; FOR I HAVE REDEEMED THEE." Isaiah 44:20-22. "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you. And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29:11-13. "And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell." Deuteronomy 4:28. "(For the Lord thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them." Deuteronomy 4:31. "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2_Chronicles 7;14. One of the most useful verses in dealing with an intelligent backslider who wishes to return to the Lord is 1_John 2:1-2: "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, and he is the propitiation of our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." Often it is helpful to give illustrations of great backsliders who returned to the Lord, and how lovingly He received them. For this purpose you can use Mark 16:7: "But go your way, tell his disciples AND PETER that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you." This tells of Christ's loving message to Peter after he had so grievously sinned, and deliberately denied his Master. 2_Chronicles 15:4 {113} and 33:1-9, 12-13 give illustrations of great backsliders who returned to the Lord, and how lovingly He received them.

Luke 15:11-21 is perhaps the most useful passage of all in dealing with a backslider who wishes to return, for it has both the steps which the backslider must take, and also a picture of the loving reception from God that awaits him. When a backslider returns to Christ, he should always be given instructions as to how to live so as not to backslide again. These instructions will be found in Chapter Five, Section II. {114} @11 CHAPTER ELEVEN HOW TO DEAL WITH PROFESSED SKEPTICS AND INFIDELS There are various classes of skeptics, and it is not wise to use the same methods in dealing with all. I. SKEPTICS WHO ARE MERE TRIFLERS. A very lange share of the skeptics of our day belong to this class. Their professed skepticism is only an excuse for sin, and a salve for their own consciences. As a rule it is not wise to spend much time on an individual of this class, but rather give him something that will sting his conscience and arouse him out of his shallowness. A good passage for this purpose is 1_Corinthians 1:18: "For the preaching of the cross is to THEM THAT PERISH FOOLISHNESS, but unto us which are saved it is the power of God," Very likely the skeptic will say, "The Gospel and the whole Bible is all foolishness to me." You can reply by saying, "Yes, that is exactly what God says." "But," the man will say, "you don't understand me, the Gospel and the whole Bible is foolishness to me." "Yes," you can reply, "that is exactly what the Bible says." The man's curiosity will be piqued, and his mind opened by his curiosity to receive a word of truth, off his guard. Then have him read 1_Corinthians 1:18. Then you can say, "You said that the Gospel was foolishness to you, and God Himself says that 'the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness,' and it is foolishness to you because you are perishing; 'but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.'" Oftentimes it will be well to leave the man without another word of comment. Be careful not to laugh at him, and not to produce

the impression that you are joking; but leave him with the thought that he is indeed perishing. {115} 2_Corinthians 4:3-4 can be used in much the same way. Before the passage is read you can say to the man, "You are a skeptic because the Gospel is hidden to you, but God Himself has told us in His Word to whom the Gospel is hidden, and why it is hidden to them." Then let him read the passage: "But IF OUR GOSPEL BE HID, IT IS HID TO THEM THAT ARE LOST: in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." When he has read it, you can say, "That verse explains to you the secret of your difficulty. The Gospel is hidden to you because you are lost, and the reason it is hidden is because the god of this world has blinded your mind, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine upon you." I have also found 1_Corinthians 2:14 useful: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." I have used it to show the man that it was no more than was to be expected that the things of the Spirit of God would be foolishness unto him, because they were spiritually discerned. I was dealing one night with a very bright student. He could hardly be called altogether a trifler, for he was a young man of a good deal of intellectual earnestness. He said to me, "This is all foolishness to me." I replied by saying, "That is exactly what the Bible says." He looked very much astonished, and protested that I did not understand him, that he had said it was all foolishness to him. "Yes," I replied, "that is what the Bible says. Let me show it to you." I opened my Bible to the passage and let him read. When he had read it, I said, "That explains why it is foolishness to you; 'the natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him.'" "Why," he said, "I never thought of that before." The Spirit of God

carried it home to his heart, and the man was led to an honest acceptance of Christ. 2_Thessalonians 1:7-9 can be used with good results with a trifling skeptic or agnostic. If the man says in an uppish way, "I am an agnostic," you can say, "Well, God has told us a good deal about agnostics and their destiny; let us see what He has said." Then have him read this passage: {116} "And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." When it is read you can say, "Now an agnostic is one that knows not God; and this verse tells us exactly what is the destiny of an agnostic and all those who know not God. This is God's own declaration of their destiny." Then have him read it again if he will, and if he will not, quote it to him. He may laugh at you, and if he does, the Word of God often sinks deeply into the heart, even when it is treated with a sneer. Mark 16:16 has been found very useful in dealing with trifling skeptics; when a man says to you that he is a skeptic or an infidel, it is well sometimes to say to him, "God has said some very plain words about infidels." Then give to him the passage: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." and say, "I simply want to leave that message of God with you," and pass on. John 3:36 can be used in a similar way. Sometimes it is well to say to the trifling skeptic, "I can tell you the origin of your skepticism, but I can do better, I can tell you what God says of the origin of your skepticism." Then show him John 8:47: He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD." 2_Thessalonians 2:10-12 can be used in extreme

cases: "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish, BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS." You can say to the man, "There is a very interesting passage in the Bible regarding skeptics. It tells what is the origin of their skepticism and what is the outcome of it." Then have him read the passage. When he has read it say, "Now what does this passage say about the origin of skepticism?" Show him it is "because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." "What is the result of their refusal to receive the truth?" "God shall give {117} them over to strong delusion that they shall believe a lie." "And what is the outcome of it all?" "That they all might be damned who believed not in the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." Psalm 14:1 is useful in some cases, though it needs to be used with discretion and kindness. Before giving it to the man to read, you can say, "I do not wish to say anything unkind to you, but God Himself has said a very plain word about those who say there is no God; let me show it to you." Then let him read: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." When he has read it, say, "I am not saying that, but God has said it. Now it is a matter between you and God, but I would advise you not to forget what God has said." Of course this applies especially to one who is skeptical about, or denies the existence of God. In dealing with a skeptic who is a trifler, and in fact with all skeptics, don't argue, don't get angry, be very gentle but very solemn, and very much in prayer, depending upon the Holy Spirit to give you words to say and to carry them home. II. AN EARNEST-MINDED SKEPTIC. Many skeptics are ton triflers. There are very many men and women in our day who are really very

desirous of knowing the truth, but who are in an utter maze of skepticism. There is no more interesting class of people to deal with than this. In beginning work with them, it is well to ask them the following preliminary questions: 1. "WHAT CAN'T YOU BELIEVE?" Get as full an answer as possible to this question, for many a man thinks he is a skeptic when really he does believe the great fundamental truths. Furthermore, in finding out what a man does believe, no matter how little it is, you have a starting point to lead the man out to further faith. 2. "WHY CAN'T YOU BELIEVE?" This will oftentimes show the man how utterly without foundation are his grounds for unbelief. 3. "DO YOU LIVE UP TO WHAT YOU DO BELIEVE?" This will give you an opportunity in many cases to show a man that his trouble is not so much what he does not believe, as his failure to live up to what he does believe. Only the other night I was dealing with a man {118} who told me that his trouble was that he could not believe, but we had not gotten far in the conversation when it became clear to us that his trouble was not so much that he could not believe, but that he did not live up to what he did believe. 4. "WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?" A few important lines along which to carry out this inquiry are, "Do you believe that there is an absolute difference between right and wrong?" "Do you believe that there is a God?" "Do you believe in prayer?" "Do you believe any part of the Bible, if so what part?" Having asked the man these preliminary questions, proceed at once to show him how to believe. I have found no passage in the Bible equal to John 7:17 in dealing with an honest skeptic: "If any man WILL DO HIS WILL, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." It shows the way out of skepticism to faith, and has been used of God to the salvation of countless skeptics and infidels. You can say to the skeptic, "Now Jesus Christ makes a fair proposition. He does not ask you to believe without evidence, bet He asks you to do a thing that your own conscience

approves, and promises that if you do it, you will come out of skepticism into knowledge. What Jesus asks in this verse, is that you will to do God's will; that is, that you surrender your will to God. Will you do it?" When this point has been settled, next say to him, "Will you make an honest search to find out what the will of God is, that you may do it?" When this point has been settled, ask the man, "Do you believe that God answers prayer?" Very likely the skeptic will reply that he does not. You can say to him, "Well, I know that He does, but of course I don't expect you to accept my opinion, but here is a possible clue to knowledge. Now the method of modern science is to follow out any possible clue to see what there is in it. You have given me a promise to make an honest search to find the will of God, and here is a possible clue, and if your promise was honest, you will follow it. Will you pray this prayer? 'O God, show me whether Jesus is thy Son or not; and if you show me that He is, I promise to accept Him as my Savior and confess Him as such before the world.'" It is well to have him make his promise definite by putting it down in black and white. After this is done, show him still another step. Take him to John 20:31: {119} "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." Here we are told that the Gospel of John was written that we might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. Tell him, "Now this Gospel is given for this purpose, to show that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God. Will you take this Gospel and read it, honestly and carefully?" Very likely he will say, "I have read it often before." You can say, "I want you to read it in a new way. Will you read it this way? Read a few verses at a time, and each time before you read, will you ask God to give you light on the passage that you are about to read, and promise that if He does, you will follow as much as you see to be true. Now when you have read the Gospel through, come back to me and tell me the result." I would again carefully go over all the points as to what he was to do. It would be well also to ask him to

especially notice the following verses in the Gospel: 1:32-34; 3:2-3; 3:16,18,19; 3:32,34,36; 4:10,14,23,34,52-53; 5:8-9, 22-24, 28-29, 40,44; 6:8-14,19,27,29,35,40,66-68; 7:17, 37-39, 45-46; 8:12,18,21,24,31-32,34,36,38,42,47; 9:17,24-25,35-39; 10:9,11,27-30; 11:25-26,43-45; 12:26,32,35-36,42-43,46,48-50; 13:3,13; 14:3,6,9,15-16,21,24,27; 15:5,7,9-11,18-19,23-26; 16:3,7-11,13-14,24; 17:3,5,12,14,22,24-26; 18:37; 19:6,7-8; 20:8,13-19,24,25,27-29,31; 21:24. This method of treatment if it is honestly followed by the skeptic will never fail. {Etext format slightly changed from printed book. Clarify to the person that the number before the colon is the chapter, and the numbers after the colon are verses in the chapter. --ccp} If the skeptic does not believe even in the existence of God, you will have to begin one step further back. Ask him if he believes there is AN ABSOLUTE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG. If he says that he does not, which will be very rarely the case, it is just as well to tell him then and there that he is a mere trifler. If he says that he does, ask him if he will take his stand upon the right and follow it wherever it carries him. He will very likely try to put you off by saying, "What is right?" You can say to him that you do not ask him to take your conception of right, but will he take his stand upon the right and follow it wherever it carries him, and make an honest attempt to find out what the right is. Next say to him. "You do not know whether there is a God and whether He {120} answers prayer or not. I know that there is a God and that He answers prayer; but I do not ask you to accept my opinion, but here is a possible clue to knowledge; will you

follow it?" If he refuses, of course you will know at once that he is not an honest skeptic, and you can tell him so. If he is willing to try this clue have him offer this prayer, "O God, if there is any God, show me whether Jesus Christ is Thy Son or not, and if You show me that He is, I promise to accept Him as my Savior and confess Him as such before the world," then have him proceed by reading the Gospel of John, etc., as in the former case. If the man is not an honest skeptic, this course of treatment will reveal the fact, and you can tell him that the difficulty is not with his skepticism, but with his rebellious and wicked heart. If a man says he does not know whether there is an absolute difference between right and wrong, you can set it down at once that he is bad, and turn to him and say frankly but kindly, "My friend, there is something wrong in your life. No man who is living a right life will doubt that there is an absolute difference between right and wrong. You probably know what the wrong is, and the trouble is not with your skepticism but with your sin." A man who was a thorough-going agnostic once came to me and stated his difficulties. The man had had a very remarkable experience. He had dabbled in Unitarianism, Spiritualism, Buddhism, Theosophy, and pretty much every other is extant. He was in a state of absolute agnosticism. He neither affirmed nor denied the existence of God. He told me that I could not help him, for his case was "very peculiar," as indeed it was, but I had John 7:17 to build my hope upon, and the man seemed honest. I asked him if he believed there was an absolute difference between right and wrong, he said that he did. I asked him if he was willing to take his stand upon the right and follow it wherever it carried him. He said that he was. I called out my stenographer and dictated a pledge somewhat as follows: "I believe that there is an absolute difference between right and wrong, and I hereby take my stand upon the right to follow it wherever it carries me. I promise to make an honest search to find if Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and if I find that He is, I promise to accept Him as my Savior and confess Him as such before the world."

I handed the pledge to the {121} man and asked him if he was willing to sign it. He read it carefully and then signed it. I then said to him, "You don't know there is not a God?" "No," he said, "I don't know that there is no God. Any man is a fool to say that he knows there is not a God. I neither affirm nor deny." "Well," I said, "I know there is a God, but that will do you no good." I said further, "You do not know that God does not answer prayer." "No," he said, "I do not know that God does not answer prayer, but I do not believe that He does." I said, "I know that He does, but that will not do you any good, but here is a possible clue to knowledge. Now you are a graduate of a British university. You know that the method of modern science is to follow out a possible clue to see what there is in it. Will you follow out this clue? Will you pray this prayer: 'O God, if there is any God, show me whether Jesus Christ is Thy Son or not, and if You show me that He is, I promise to accept Him as my Savior and confess Him as such before the world?" "Yes," he said, "I am willing to do that, but there is nothing in it; my case is very peculiar." I then turned to John 20:31 and read, "These are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." After reading the verse, I said, "John wrote this Gospel that 'ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.' Will you take this Gospel and read it, not trying to believe it, but simply with a fair mind, willing to believe it if it approves itself to you as true?" He said, "I have read it time and time again, and could quote a good deal of it." I said, "I want you to read it in a new way; read a few verses at a time, ask God for light each time you read, and promise to act upon so much as you see to be true." This the man promised to do, but closed by saying, "There is nothing in it, my case is very peculiar." I went over again the various points and bade the man good-bye. A short time after I met him again. He hurried up to me, and almost the first words he said were, "There is something in that." I replied, "I knew that before." "Why," he said, "ever since I have done

what I promised you to do, it is just as if I had been taken up to the Niagara river and was being carried along." Some weeks after I met the man again; his doubts had all gone. The teachings of the men he had formerly listened to with delight, had become utter foolishness to him. He had put himself in a way {122} to find out the truth of God, and God had made it known to him, and he had become a believer in Jesus Christ as God's Son, and the Bible as God's Word. There is no more interesting class, and no easier class to deal with, than honest skeptics. Many are afraid to tackle them, but there is no need of this. There is a way out of skepticism into faith laid down in the Bible that is absolutely sure if any one will take it. As for skeptics who are triflers, it is not best to spend much time on them, but simply to give them some searching passages of Scripture, and to look to the Spirit of God to carry the Word home. III. SPECIAL CLASSES OF SKEPTICS. 1. THOSE WHO DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. The passages given under I. and II. may be used with this class, and usually it is wise to use them before the specific passages given under this head. (1) An excellent passage to use with those who claim to doubt the existence of God is Romans 1:19-22: "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD, THEY GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, NEITHER WERE THANKFUL; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." Ask the doubter to read this passage carefully. When he has done so, you can say to him, "Of course you never saw God, but this verse tells us how the invisible things of Him whom we have never seen can be known, and how is it?" "By the things that are made." "What does Paul say we can

understand by the things that are made?" "His eternal power and Godhead." "Is not this true, do not the facts of nature prove an intelligent creator?" It is well sometimes to illustrate by a watch or something of that sort. Show the inquirer a watch and ask him if he believes it had an intelligent maker, and why he thinks so; then ask him about his eye which shows more marks of intelligence in its construction than a watch, or anything man ever made. Having dwelled upon this argument and made it clear, ask him what God says those are who do not believe in God as revealed in His works. Bring out the fact that {123} God says they are "without excuse." Then you can say to him, "The twenty-first verse tells us why men get in the dark about God." Have him read this verse also. "According to this verse, why is it that men get in the dark about God?" "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful." "Is not this true about you? Was there not a time when you knew God, believed that there was a God, but did not glorify Him as God, neither returned thanks to Him? What does God say is the result of this course?" "They became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." "Now is this not precisely your case? Has not your foolish heart been darkened by not glorifying God when you knew Him? Now the twenty-second verse describes such persons. Exactly what does it say about them?" "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." In something the same way you can use Psalm 19:1-2: "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge." "According to this passage, what declares to us the glory of God?" "The heavens." "What shows His handiwork?" "The firmament." "Do you know anything about the stars?" Let the skeptic tell what he knows about the stars. If he knows nothing, tell him something about their greatness, their magnitude, and their wonderful movements, and then ask him if it does not indicate a

wonderful creator. Endeavor to make him see that he is not honest in his denial of God. (2) Tell him that there is still one verse you wish to give him, and that you hope he will bear in mind that it is not you who says it, but God; and that it applies to his case exactly. Then have him read the first half of Psalm 14:1: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." When he has read it, ask him who it is, according to this verse, who says, "There is no God." "The fool." "Where is it that he says there is no God?" "In his heart." "Why is it then that the fool says there is no God, because he cannot believe in God, or because he does not wish to believe in God?" You can add that the folly of saying in one's heart there is no God is seen in two points, first, {124} because there is a God, and it is folly to say there is not one when there is; and second, because the doctrine that there is not a God always brings misery and wretchedness. Put it right to the man, and ask him if he ever knew a happy atheist. Before leaving him, you can tell him that he is losing the greatest blessing for time and for eternity by doubting the existence of God. Turn him to Romans 6:23 and show him that this is so: "The wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." When he has read the verse, say to him, "This verse tells us that we have our choice between eternal death, which is the wages that we have earned by sin, and eternal life, which is the gift of God, but of course if we do not believe in God, we cannot look to Him for this gift." You can further tell him that in his present state of mind it is impossible for him to do anything that pleases God, and show him Hebrews 11:6 and have him read it if he will, and if he will not, read it to him. 2. THOSE WHO DOUBT THAT THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD. The method of dealing with honest skeptics described above is as a rule the best method of dealing with this class, but other plans will be useful with some. (1) Oftentimes men say, 'I do not believe the

Bible as a whole is the Word of God, but I accept what Jesus says." If one says this, get him to take his stand clearly and definitely upon this statement, that he accepts the authority of Jesus Christ. Get him to commit himself to this point. When he has done it, say to him, "Well, if you accept the authority of Jesus Christ, you must accept the authority of the whole Old Testament, for Jesus Christ has set the seal of His authority to the entire book." This the man will not believe at first, but turn him to Mark 7:13; show him the context, thereby proving to him that Jesus here calls the law of Moses the Word of God. Then say to him, "If you accept the authority of Jesus, you must accept the authority of at least the first five books of the Bible as being the Word of God." You can follow this up by Matthew 5:18: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled." {125} Here Jesus sets His authority to the absolute inerrancy of the Old Testament law. Then turn him to John 10:35: "If he called them gods unto whom the word of God came, and THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN." Show him here Jesus quotes a passage from the Psalms, (Psalm 82:6), and says that the Scripture cannot be broken, and hereby sets the stamp of His authority to the absolute inerrancy of the entire Old Testament Scriptures. Turn him next to Luke 24:27: "And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." Show him from this passage how Jesus quoted the entire Old Testament Scriptures, Moses and the prophets, as being of conclusive authority. Then go on to the 44th verse, and call his attention to the fact that Jesus said that "all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the Psalms." Remind him that the Jew divided the Bible, the present Old Testament Scriptures, into three parts, the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, and that Jesus took up each one of these parts in detail, and set the stamp of His authority upon the whole.

Therefore hold him to the point that if he accepts the authority of Christ, he must accept the authority of the whole Old Testament, and he has already said that he did accept the authority of Christ. To prove that Christ set the stamp of His authority to the New Testament, take him to John 14:26: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Here Jesus plainly declares that not only would the teaching of the apostles be true, but that it would contain all the truth, and furthermore, that their recollection of what He Himself said, would not be their own recollection, but the recollection of the Holy Ghost. Follow this up with John 16:12-13: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." {126} Show him that Jesus Himself said, "I have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth." Therefore, tell him that Jesus said the apostles would be taught of the Holy Spirit, that the Holy Spirit would guide them INTO ALL THE TRUTH, and that their teaching would be more complete than His own. "Therefore, if you accept the authority of Jesus, you must accept the authority of the entire New Testament." (2) If the objector says that Paul never claimed that his teachings were the Word of God, turn him to 1_Thessalonians 2:13: "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because when ye received THE WORD OF GOD WHICH YE HEARD OF US, ye received not as the word of men, BUT AS IT IS IN TRUTH, THE WORD OF GOD, which effectually worketh also in you that believe." (3) A passage which is useful as describing the character of Bible inspiration is 2_Peter 1:21: "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will

of man: but holy men of God SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST." 1_Corinthians 2:14 is useful as proving verbal inspiration (see especially Am.R.V. {i.e., the American Standard Version: "Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged." (1_Corinthians 2:14 ASV) }) (4) Sometimes it is well to say to the doubter, "The Bible itself explains why it is that you do not believe the Bible is the Word of God." Then show him John 8:47. {"He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear them not, because ye are not of God." (John 8:47 ASV)} Follow this up by saying, "That you do not believe the Bible is God's word does not alter the fact," and show him Romans 3:3-4: "For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." You can go further yet and say that God Himself tells us that there is awful guilt attaching to the one who will not believe the record that He has given, and then show him 1_John 5:10: "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son." Ask him when he has read it, "What does God say here of the one who does not believe the record that He has given of His Son?" and make him see that God says he has made God a liar. {127} (5) Finally you may use Luke 16:30-31: "And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Before reading it, say, "Well, God says that the case of one who will not listen to the Bible is very desperate. Just read and see what He says upon this point," and then have him read the

verse. 3. THOSE WHO DOUBT THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST. It is very common in our day to have men say that they believe in God, but they do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God. The best way, as a rule, to deal with such is along the line described in I and II, especially under II; but sometimes there is a man who has real difficulties on this point, and it is well to meet him squarely. (1) In the first place, show such a one that we find several divine titles applied to Christ, the same titles being applied to Christ in the New Testament that are applied to Jehovah in the Old: Acts 10:36 and 1_Corinthians 2:8, compare Psalm 24:8-10: "The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is LORD OF ALL)." Acts 10:36. "Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified THE LORD OF GLORY." 1_Corinthians 2:8. "Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. WHO IS THIS KING OF GLORY? THE _LORD_ OF HOSTS, HE IS THE KING OF GLORY. Selah." Psalm 24:8-10 Hebrews 1:8; John 20:28, Romans 9:5, Revelation 1:17, compare Isaiah 44:6: "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:8. "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28. "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, GOD BLESSED FOREVER." Romans 9:5. "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST." Revelation 1:17. "_Thus saith the LORD_ the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts, I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST, and beside me there is no God."

Isaiah 44:6. (2) Show him further that offices are ascribed to Christ that only God could fill. For this purpose use Hebrews 1:3,10: {128} "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and UPHOLDING ALL THINGS BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." "And thou, Lord, in the beginning hast LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH; and THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORK OF THINE HANDS." (3) Show him that the Bible expressly declares that Jesus Christ should be worshiped as God. Use for this purpose Hebrews 1:6, Philippians 2:10, John 5:22-23, compare Revelation 5:13: "And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM." Hebrews 1:6. "That AT THE NAME OF JESUS every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth." Philippians 2:10. "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: that all men should honour the Son, EVEN AS THEY HONOUR THE FATHER. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him." John 5:22-23. "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard, saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND UNTO THE LAMB for ever and ever." Revelation 5:13. (4) Show him that Jesus claimed the same honor as His Father, and either He was divine, or the most blasphemous impostor that ever lived. For this purpose use John 5:22-23. Drive home the truth that the one who denies Christ's divinity puts Him in the place of a blasphemous impostor. Mark 14:61-62: "But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the blessed? And JESUS SAID, I AM; and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven." (cf. vs. 63-64.)

(5) In the next place show him that the Bible says the one who denies the divinity of Christ, no matter who he may be, is a liar and an antichrist. For this purpose use 1_John 3:22-23, compared with 1_John 5:1,5: "WHO IS A LIAR BUT HE THAT DENIETH THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him." "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" {129} 1_John 5:10-12 shows that he who does not believe that Jesus is divine makes God a liar, "because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son." (6) Make it clear to the inquirer that God regards it as a matter of awful folly and guilt deserving the worst punishment to reject Christ as the Son of God. For this purpose use Hebrews 10:28-29: "He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" Follow this up with John 8:24, which shows beyond a question that one who does not believe in the divinity of Christ cannot be saved, and John 20:31, which shows that we obtain life through believing that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God. (7) I have found that making clear the fact that Christ rose from the dead, and that this was God's seal to His claim to be divine, is very helpful in dealing with many who have doubts as to His divinity. I have also found Acts 9:20 very helpful: "And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, THAT HE IS THE SON OF GOD." I call attention to who it was in this verse that declared Jesus to be the Son of God, namely Saul of Tarsus. I then bring out what it was that led

Paul to say this; that is, his actually seeing Jesus in the glory, and hearing the words that He spoke to him. Then I make it clear that one of three things is true: either Saul actually saw Jesus in the glory, or else he lied about it, or else he was deceived, being in a heated state of imagination or something of that kind. Then I show how he could not have lied about it, for men do not manufacture a lie for the sake of suffering for it thirty or thirty-five years. Second, I show that the circumstances were such as to preclude the possibility of an optical delusion, or an overheated state of the imagination, for not only did Paul see the light, but those who were with him, and those who were with him also heard the voice speaking, though they did not hear what the voice said. Furthermore, there was a second man, Ananias, who received a commission independently to go to Saul and lay hands upon him, {130} and his eyes would be opened, and Saul's eyes were opened, which of course could not be the result of imagination. So Saul of Tarsus must actually have seen Christ in the glory, and if he did, in the way described, it settles it beyond question that Jesus is the Son of God; so the divinity of Christ is not a theological speculation, but an established fact. 4. THOSE WHO DOUBT THE DOCTRINE OF FUTURE PUNISHMENT, OR THE CONSCIOUS, ENDLESS SUFFERING OF THE LOST. As a rule it is not wise to discuss this difficulty with one who is not an out and out Christian. No one who has not surrendered his will and his mind to Jesus Christ is in a position to discuss the details of future punishment, but if one is skeptical on this point, though a Christian (in that he has accepted Christ as personal Savior), it is well to show him the teaching of God's Word. A great deal is made by those who deny the conscious, endless suffering of the lost, of the words "death" and "destruction," which are said to mean annihilation, or at least non-conscious existence. Say to such a one, "Let us see how the Bible defines its own terms." Revelation 21:8 defines what death means when used in the Scriptures as the punishment of the wicked: "But the fearful, and unbelieving and the

abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH." Revelation 17:8, cf. Revelation 19:20 shows what "perdition" (some Greek word as translated elsewhere "destruction") means in the Scriptures: "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go INTO PERDITION; and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." Revelation 17:8. "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive INTO A LAKE OF FIRE BURNING WITH BRIMSTONE." Revelation 19:20. Revelation 17:8 tells us that the beast was to go into "perdition," (destruction), Revelation 19:20 tells us just where the beast went, "into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." This then is "perdition." But Revelation 20:10 shows us the beast still there at the end of one thousand {131} years, AND BEING STILL CONSCIOUSLY TORMENTED, AND TO BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER. This then is what the Bible means by "perdition" or "destruction," conscious torment forever and ever in a lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 shows that those who are subjected to the terrible retribution here described are those who are not found written in the book of life: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Matthew 10;28 shows that there is a destruction for the soul apart from the destruction for the body: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Luke 12:5 shows that AFTER ONE IS KILLED (and is of course dead), there is still punishment in

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